Links and Notes - Mon, Nov 11, 2019

4:47 p.m.

It has been a wintry afternoon as temps have continued to drop slowly. The snow has accumulated on the lawn areas at least one-inch. The snow has also accumulated on the concrete and asphalt areas. The snowfall has been steady but very light.

According to radar, it appears that we will have for several more hours, but the heavier snowfall may occur mostly south of Toledo. This morning, the heavier snowfall occurred north of Toledo. That's okay.

A significant snowfall now is annoying with the leaves. I don't want the snow plows working our streets with our huge piles of leaves residing in the streets.

The city scooped up leaves last Wednesday. That was their first pass. I raked leaves after the city came through. I did not have a chance to rake on Monday and Tuesday last week. I piled the leaves on our devil's strip last Wednesday evening. But yesterday, I pushed that ridge of leaves into the street. A crapload of leaves fell on Friday. Many people in our neighborhood put leaves in the street on Saturday and yesterday. I raked another big load yesterday evening, and I placed them into the street on my last-Wednesday pile. A snow plow would scrape away the leaves, fouling our streets. Neighbors have leaves in the streets too. The roads are narrow now because of the leaf ridges. Snow plows would make things worse.

Our sugar maples are still mostly green. The oaks have turned color, but a lot of oak leaves still need to drop. The leaves have been falling some today during the snowfall. The snow accumulation on the lawns is covering some leaves. Tomorrow, leaves will probably fall and cover the snowfall. Some of our shrubs are mostly green. The spirea, however, has yellow leaves. It's kind of messy with a snowfall this early.

Little wind existed for most of the day, which allowed the light snow to accumulate on twigs, branches, attached leaves, etc. But late this afternoon, the wind speeds have increased.

It looks interesting to see snow accumulated on the brown oak leaves attached to the trees.


Toledo Express Airport (KTOL)
Nov 11, 2019 3:52 pm EST
Weather : Snow
Temperature : 29 F
Humidity : 81%
Wind Speed : N 10 mph
Wind Gust 22 mph
Barometer : 30.05 in
Dewpoint: 24 F
Visibility : 0.50 statute miles
Wind Chill : 20 F

Toledo Executive Airport (KTDZ)
Nov 11, 2019 3:53 pm EST
Weather : Snow Freezing Fog
Temperature : 29 F
Humidity : 92%
Wind Speed : N 15 mph
Barometer : 30.04 in
Dewpoint: 27 F
Visibility : 0.50 statute miles
Wind Chill : 18 F

Toledo Suburban Airport (KDUH)
Nov 11, 2019 4:35 pm EST
Weather : Light Snow
Temperature : 30 F
Humidity : 88%
Wind Speed : NNW 8 mph
Barometer : 30.06 in
Dewpoint: 27 F
Visibility : 0.75 statute miles
Wind Chill : 22 F


Date and Time: 04:45 PM, Mon, Nov 11, 2019
Summary: Flurries (5–9 in.)
Air Temp: 28 F
Dew Point: 27 F
Humidity: 94 %
Wind Direction: North-Northwest
Wind Speed: 5 mph
Wind Gust: 7 mph
Apparent Air Temp: 22 F
Pressure: 30.07 inches
UV Index: Low : 0.0
Cloud Cover: 100 % : Cloudy
Precip Probability: 100 %
Precip Intensity: 0.014 : Very Light
Precip Type: snow
Visibility: 0.645 miles
Nearest Precip Distance: Precip is occurring over or near this location.
Nearest Precip Bearing:


Dark Sky forecast:

Heavy snow today.

Mon, Nov 11, 2019 - Heavy snow until evening. Cloud cover: Cloudy. Precip type: snow. Snow accumulation: 34.44 inches. Precip probability: 93 %. Low temp 19 at 05:58 AM. High temp 33 at 10:53 AM. Dew point 29. Humidity 92. Apparent high temp 28. Wind: North at 8 mph. Sunrise: 07:20 AM. Sunset: 05:19 PM. Moon: 0.48 = Waxing Gibbous.

Tue, Nov 12, 2019 - Partly cloudy throughout the day. Cloud cover: Partly Cloudy. Precip type: snow. Snow accumulation: 0.41 inches. Precip probability: 30 %. Low temp 12 at 12:36 AM. High temp 27 at 02:03 PM. Dew point 16. Humidity 83. Apparent high temp 16. Wind: Northwest at 12 mph. Sunrise: 07:21 AM. Sunset: 05:19 PM. Moon: 0.52 = Waning Gibbous.

I think that is suppose to be 3.44 inches and not 34.44 inches. I'll have to check my code, or maybe it's a flaw in the Dark Sky JSON data.


urgent - winter weather message
national weather service cleveland oh
216 pm est mon nov 11 2019

ohz003-006-017-120330-
/o.con.kcle.ww.y.0025.000000t0000z-191112t0600z/
lucas-wood-hancock-
including the cities of toledo, bowling green, and findlay
216 pm est mon nov 11 2019

...winter weather advisory remains in effect until 1 am est
tuesday...

precautionary/preparedness actions...

slow down and use caution while traveling.

the latest road conditions can be obtained from the department of
transportation web site.


hazardous weather outlook
national weather service cleveland oh
326 pm est mon nov 11 2019

ohz003-006-017-122030-
lucas-wood-hancock-
326 pm est mon nov 11 2019

...winter weather advisory in effect until 1 am est tuesday...

this hazardous weather outlook is for northwest ohio.

.day one...this afternoon and tonight.

please listen to noaa weather radio or go to weather.gov on the
internet for more information about the following hazards.

winter weather advisory.

.days two through seven...tuesday through sunday.

cold temperatures are expected tuesday into wednesday. wind chill
values will dip to the single digits to around zero wednesday
morning.

.spotter information statement...

spotter activation is not expected at this time.

12:46 p.m.

Very light snow is gently falling. Little to no wind exists. A skiff of snow accumulation existed on the flower beds and lawn. The concrete and asphalt areas were wet.

The most recent forecast still predicts 2 to 4 inches of snow accumulation for today. That seems optimistic, but they have the computers.

An area of heavier snowfall existed over northeast Indiana and extreme northwest Ohio. I assume that heavier snowfall rates will occur after 3:00 p.m.


MD that covers southern Michigan and northern Indiana:

md 2145 concerning heavy snow for northern indiana and southern michigan

mesoscale discussion 2145
nws storm prediction center norman ok
1047 am cst mon nov 11 2019

areas affected...northern indiana and southern michigan

concerning...heavy snow

valid 111647z - 112045z

summary...a band of moderate to heavy snow is expected to persist
through the afternoon. snowfall rates up to 1 inch per hour are
expected.

discussion...snowfall rates have increased from northern indiana
into southeast michigan with several observations reporting moderate
snow and the observation in goshen, indiana reporting heavy snow.
this heavy snow band is associated with an area of strong 850-700mb
frontogenesis across the region. moderate to heavy snowfall rates
are expected to persist through early afternoon with snowfall rates
decreasing later this afternoon and into the evening as
frontogenesis weakens across the region.

in addition, a mid-lake lake effect snow band can clearly be seen in
regional radar reflectivity within the broader light snow shield
northwest of this heavy snow band. this snow band is currently
leading to higher snowfall rates in far northwest indiana and south
chicago. this band will shift eastward across northwest indiana and
eventually into southwest michigan which will lead to locally
enhanced snowfall rates to some areas west and north of the primary
heavy snow band.

..bentley.. 11/11/2019

...please see www.spc.noaa.gov for graphic product...

attn...wfo...dtx...iwx...grr...

lat...lon 41828666 41688680 41428679 41268639 41348573 41758438
42048336 42228294 42608245 42738258 42778305 42658370
42378528 41828666


Toledo 7-day forecast
Last Update: Nov 11, 2019 12:11 pm

Veterans Day: Snow. High near 34. North wind 11 to 13 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Total daytime snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches possible.

Tonight: Snow showers, mainly before 1am. Low around 18. North wind 11 to 14 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New snow accumulation of less than one inch possible.

Tuesday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 26. Northwest wind 11 to 14 mph.

Tuesday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around 10. West wind around 6 mph.

Wednesday: Partly sunny, with a high near 28. South wind 6 to 8 mph.

Wednesday Night: A chance of snow showers, mainly after 1am. Cloudy, with a low around 25. Chance of precipitation is 30%. Little or no snow accumulation expected.

Thursday: Mostly cloudy, with a high near 36.

Thursday Night: Partly cloudy, with a low around 25.

Friday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 36.

Friday Night: Partly cloudy, with a low around 23.

Saturday: Partly sunny, with a high near 37.

Saturday Night: Mostly cloudy, with a low around 27.

Sunday: Mostly cloudy, with a high near 41.


For the northeast Ohio snowbelt:

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Cleveland OH
648 AM EST Mon Nov 11 2019

...Winter Weather Expected Today Through Wednesday Morning...

.Precipitation will overspread the area on today as low pressure
tracks northeast up the Ohio Valley. Precipitation will
transition to snow earlier in the day in Northwest Ohio as cooler
air is wrapped into the back of the system. As the system
continues eastward, remaining areas will transition to snow on
this afternoon and evening. Several inches of snow are expected
across Northeast Ohio and Northwest Pennsylvania this afternoon
into tonight. By early Tuesday morning, lake effect snow bands
will develop across the primary and secondary snowbelt region.
Lake effect snow may be heavy at times and will continue into
Wednesday morning before flow shifts any lingering bands out over
Lake Erie.

OHZ011>014-089-112100-
/O.CON.KCLE.WS.W.0005.191111T2100Z-191113T1500Z/
Cuyahoga-Lake-Geauga-Ashtabula Inland-Ashtabula Lakeshore-
Including the cities of Cleveland, Mentor, Chardon, Jefferson,
and Ashtabula
648 AM EST Mon Nov 11 2019

...WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 4 PM THIS
AFTERNOON TO 10 AM EST WEDNESDAY...

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

If you must travel, keep an extra flashlight, food, and water in
your vehicle in case of an emergency.

The latest road conditions can be obtained from the Department of
Transportation web site.

11:00 a.m.

Overcast morning. A skiff of snow flurries fell before daybreak. All morning, radar has shown precip, most likely snow, allegedly falling near the state line and areas to the north.

Some very light precip is falling over us now, but it's barely detectable. It's tiny snow flakes. A dusting of snow exists on car tops and some roof tops. Since temps yesterday were 50 degrees, and our temps now are still above freezing, any snow falling now is melting.

Radar shows precip over most of Lucas County, but it's very light.

A large area of precip exists over most of the lower peninsula of Michigan, northern Indiana, and the northern half of Illinois. Precip moving east-northeast.

Immediate Toledo forecast:

Veterans Day: Snow. High near 34. North wind around 11 mph, with gusts as high as 21 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Total daytime snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches possible.

Tonight: Snow showers, mainly before 1am. Low around 18. North wind around 14 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New snow accumulation of less than one inch possible.

Tuesday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 26. Northwest wind 11 to 15 mph, with gusts as high as 25 mph.

Northern Monroe and northern Lenawee counties might receive multiple inches of snowfall today. It's unlikely that West Toledo will receive more than two inches by 7:00 p.m.

It seems like that the main area of snow won't reach Toledo until this afternoon, two or three hours from now. We'll see.

From the 10:04 a.m. Area Forecast Discussion, issued by the Cle NWS:

have slowed the arrival of the steady rain/snow. however there
will be areas of drizzle across the region as we await the
better lift that arrives this evening into the overnight. it is
starting to look as if we may see a brief period of freezing
rain/drizzle across the corners of the cwa. areas north of
toledo may see a brief period late this morning into the
afternoon before the change over to snow.

Radar loop ending at 11:00 a.m.


Toledo Express Airport (KTOL)
Nov 11, 2019 10:52 am EST
Weather : Light Freezing Rain
Temperature : 33 F
Humidity : 82%
Wind Speed : NNE 14 mph
Barometer : 30.07 in
Dewpoint: 28 F
Visibility : 2.00 statute miles
Wind Chill : 23 F

Toledo Executive Airport (KTDZ)
Nov 11, 2019 10:53 am EST
Weather : Light Rain Fog/Mist
Temperature : 33 F
Humidity : 92%
Wind Speed : NNE 10 mph
Barometer : 30.07 in
Dewpoint: 31 F
Visibility : 2.00 statute miles
Wind Chill : 25 F

Toledo Suburban Airport (KDUH)
Nov 11, 2019 10:35 am EST
Weather : Light Snow
Temperature : 33 F
Humidity : 85%
Wind Speed : N 7 mph
Barometer : 30.08 in
Dewpoint: 29 F
Visibility : 5.00 statute miles
Wind Chill : 27 F


urgent - winter weather message
national weather service cleveland oh
648 am est mon nov 11 2019

...winter weather expected today through wednesday morning...

.precipitation will overspread the area on today as low pressure
tracks northeast up the ohio valley. precipitation will
transition to snow earlier in the day in northwest ohio as cooler
air is wrapped into the back of the system. as the system
continues eastward, remaining areas will transition to snow on
this afternoon and evening. several inches of snow are expected
across northeast ohio and northwest pennsylvania this afternoon
into tonight. by early tuesday morning, lake effect snow bands
will develop across the primary and secondary snowbelt region.
lake effect snow may be heavy at times and will continue into
wednesday morning before flow shifts any lingering bands out over
lake erie.

ohz003-006-017-112100-
/o.con.kcle.ww.y.0025.191111t1500z-191112t0600z/
lucas-wood-hancock-
including the cities of toledo, bowling green, and findlay
648 am est mon nov 11 2019

...winter weather advisory remains in effect from 10 am this
morning to 1 am est tuesday...

precautionary/preparedness actions...

slow down and use caution while traveling.

the latest road conditions can be obtained from the department of
transportation web site.


Toledo 7-day forecast
Last Update: Nov 11, 2019 10:02 am

Veterans Day: Snow. High near 34. North wind around 11 mph, with gusts as high as 21 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Total daytime snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches possible.

Tonight: Snow showers, mainly before 1am. Low around 18. North wind around 14 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New snow accumulation of less than one inch possible.

Tuesday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 26. Northwest wind 11 to 15 mph, with gusts as high as 25 mph.

Tuesday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around 10. Northwest wind around 6 mph becoming calm in the evening.

Wednesday: Partly sunny, with a high near 28. Calm wind becoming south around 6 mph in the afternoon.

Wednesday Night: A chance of snow showers, mainly after 1am. Cloudy, with a low around 25. Chance of precipitation is 30%. Little or no snow accumulation expected.

Thursday: Mostly cloudy, with a high near 36.

Thursday Night: Partly cloudy, with a low around 25.

Friday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 36.

Friday Night: Partly cloudy, with a low around 23.

Saturday: Partly sunny, with a high near 37.

Saturday Night: Mostly cloudy, with a low around 27.

Sunday: Mostly cloudy, with a high near 41.


area forecast discussion
national weather service cleveland oh
1004 am est mon nov 11 2019

.synopsis...
a cold front is slowly moving through the region. low pressure
will strengthen as it tracks northeast through the ohio valley
today reaching the new england coast by tonight. a deepening
upper level trough will usher in the coldest air of the season
across the region by tuesday through midweek.

&&

.near term /through tuesday/...
have slowed the arrival of the steady rain/snow. however there
will be areas of drizzle across the region as we await the
better lift that arrives this evening into the overnight. it is
starting to look as if we may see a brief period of freezing
rain/drizzle across the corners of the cwa. areas north of
toledo may see a brief period late this morning into the
afternoon before the change over to snow. also could see this
occur across nw pa during the evening hours. any ice
accumulations will be very light.

previous discussion...
the cold front that moved through overnight has slowed down
across central ohio. temperatures are slowly cooling down and we
have already reached our 24 hour maximum temperature today as
temperatures will continue a slow fall today. an area of low
pressure is developing near the ohio river valley and will
continue to strengthen as it moves eastward. widespread light
rain will develop this morning changing to light snow from west
to east during the day as the colder air filters in on the back
side of the developing low pressure system. by early evening,
most of the area will have switched over to light to
occasionally moderate snow and temperatures falling below
freezing. initially the snow will accumulate on grass and
elevated surfaces this afternoon but as the sun goes down, the
snow will have an easier time to accumulate on untreated
roadways. the heaviest snowfall will occur between 4pm and 10
pm. the synoptic snow with the main weather system will
gradually end from west to east between midnight and 6 am
tuesday morning. with that said, widespread 2 to 5 inches of
snowfall is expected with the main weather system. and a winter
weather advisory has been issued for most of northern ohio.

by early tuesday morning, we will transition from a synoptic
snowfall to lake effect snow developing from both lake erie and
some with a lake huron connection. 850 mb temperatures will
cool down to around -15c with water temperatures on the lake
around 8c to 10c. extreme lake induced instability will develop
with multiple bands of lake effect snow likely for the primary
and secondary snowbelt areas. looking at the atmospheric
profile and soundings, the lake effect bands may grow over 10k
feet during its peak and there could be some thundersnow in the
strongest bands. snowfall rates could exceed 1 or 2 inches per
hour in the strongest bands that develop. initially the flow
will be nnw with a gradual shifting of the flow to more nw and
wnw by late tuesday afternoon. this will shift the les from
north central lakeshore areas to more of the primary snowbelt
during the on tuesday. this shifting should allow the les
snowfall to be spread out over a greater area over time. the
latest storm snowfall forecast will be 8 to 12 inches in the
warning area with isolated amounts up to 15 possible in the
higher terrain of the primary snowbelt region. an upgrade to a
winter storm warning has been issued for the areas that will
likely see the heaviest snowfall from the synoptic system
transitioning into the lake effect event.

&&

.short term /tuesday night through thursday night/...
strong upper level low pressure system and trough will shift east of
the area tuesday night into wednesday as a slowly amplifying ridge
builds east over the great lakes region by wednesday afternoon. the
amplification of the ridge is a result of another upper level trough
diving into the central plains states. the trough axis will shift
east across the local area by thursday evening and cause troughiness
across the eastern half of the united states. surface high pressure
will build east toward the ohio valley wednesday. this will
continue the favorable flow from the great lakes into the snowbelt
region during the morning hours. as the surface high pressure moves
east, the flow will become gradually less favorable wednesday
afternoon into wednesday night. initially, with 850 mb temperatures
around -16 degrees c, area can expect to see extreme instability
between lake surface temperature and 850 mb temperature. deep
moisture will also be present with lake induced cape around 1000.
inversion hangs around 8000 to 9000 feet above the surface resulting
in relatively deep convection. as surface high moves east of the
area wednesday, this should result in a fairly rapid retreat of the
snow bands back north away from the area. expecting to see
dwindling snowbands late afternoon wednesday. the upper level ridge
will build into the region forcing surface high pressure to move
east of the area by thursday morning. another low pressure system
will lift north into northern ontario, canada by thursday morning
forcing a cold front east across the area thursday afternoon. the
front appears to be limited in moisture and will have limited impact
on the local area. temperatures will warm slightly on the west side
of the high after some pretty chilly temperatures wednesday. some
locations could see lows in the single digits out west while mostly
teens in the east. highs on wednesday still remain in the upper 20s
to near 30 degrees but will drop back into the 20s for lows thursday
and friday mornings. otherwise, highs thursday will be in the
middle to upper 30s.

&&

.long term /friday through sunday/...
upper level troughiness will shift east of the area allowing a weak
ridge to build east across the great lakes by saturday. a more
vigorous and potent trough will slide east toward the area sunday. a
cold front will push southeast across the area friday followed by
another quick blast of arctic air. as surface high builds east
toward the area, flow could become favorable for more lake effect
snow across the area friday night into saturday morning. surface
high will move over the region saturday afternoon and bring a return
southerly flow to the area sunday. otherwise, other than the lake
effect possibility, period should remain for the most part dry.

&&

.aviation /12z monday through friday/...
ceilings will continue to drop to widespread ifr through the
early morning hours lasting through the evening overnight. some
improvement in ceilings to mvfr will be possible late in the
taf period. light rain and snow mix will develop and spread
from west to east across the area this morning transitioning
into all light to moderate snow by this afternoon into the
evening. ifr ceilings and visibilities are expected with the
snow through the evening hours with some potential for ceilings
to drop lifr briefly. winds will remain northerly 8 to 12 knots
with some gusts up to 20 knots likely by late this afternoon and
overnight as low pressure strengthens and moves out of the
area. the widespread snow will transition to localized lake
effect snow showers with burst of moderate to locally heavy snow
at times by tuesday morning.

.outlook...non-vfr monday night. non-vfr expected tuesday into
wednesday north central and northeast ohio into nwrn pa in lake
effect snow. non-vfr possible wednesday night into thursday all
areas.

&&

.marine...
deepening low pressure is expected to move northeast across the area
through tuesday and this will bring some gusty winds to the lake.
small craft advisories will likely remain in effect through tuesday
as a result of the low. winds diminish wednesday as high pressure
moves east across the area during the day and then wind shifts to a
southerly direction wednesday night into thursday. a cold front will
slide southeast across the lake friday and result in winds shifting
to a northwest direction. may need another small craft advisory
again on friday.

&&

.climate...
arctic air will move southeast into the local area monday night
into tuesday and then begin to shift east tuesday night. the
unseasonably cold air will cause temperatures to plummet to some
of the coldest readings so far this season.

below are the coldest temperatures on record for selected dates
at our six climate sites:

tuesday, november 12:

coldest high (year) coldest low (year)

akron-canton area: 28 (1920) 16 (1950)
cleveland area: 31 (1920)18 (1911)
erie area:34 (1996)18 (1911)
mansfield area:29 (1996)16 (1976)
toledo area:30 (1995)15 (1976)
youngstown area: 30 (1996)19 (1950)

wednesday, november 13:

coldest high (year) coldest low (year)

akron-canton area:25 (1911)12 (1911)
cleveland area: 22 (1911) 15 (1911)
erie area: 23 (1911)16 (1911)
mansfield area:27 (1986)13 (1986)
toledo area:22 (1986)13 (1911)
youngstown area:29 (1996)17 (1986)

&&

.cle watches/warnings/advisories...
oh...winter storm warning from 4 pm this afternoon to 10 am est
wednesday for ohz011>014-089.
winter weather advisory from 4 pm this afternoon to 7 pm est
tuesday for ohz010-020>023.
winter weather advisory until 1 am est tuesday for ohz003-006-
017.
winter weather advisory from 1 pm this afternoon to 7 am est
tuesday for ohz007>009-018-019-027-028-036.
winter weather advisory from 4 pm this afternoon to 7 am est
tuesday for ohz029>031-037-047.
pa...winter storm warning from 4 pm this afternoon to 1 pm est
wednesday for paz001>003.
marine...small craft advisory until 4 am est wednesday for lez144>149.
small craft advisory until 11 pm est tuesday for lez142-143.

&&

$$
synopsis...griffin
near term...griffin/mm
short term...lombardy
long term...lombardy
aviation...griffin
marine...lombardy
climate...

Links

Yesterday's Browns post-game chatter.
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/10/freddie-kitchens-declines-to-explain-reason-for-deactivating-antonio-callaway/

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http://www.toledoblade.com/local/city/2019/11/10/wtvg-tv-channel-13-off-the-air-sunday-morning/stories/20191110139

http://www.toledoblade.com/local/police-fire/2019/11/10/coroner-woman-killed-in-south-toledo-stabbed-more-than-20-times/stories/20191110155

http://www.toledoblade.com/local/police-fire/2019/11/11/officials-quiet-north-toledo-dogfighting-network-investigation/stories/20191108093

https://www.niemanlab.org/2019/11/when-a-newspaper-struggles-you-dont-have-to-close-it-you-can-give-it-to-its-community/

How a community in Quebec, facing the closure of its local paper, The Gleaner, rebuilt it as a community nonprofit


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