Links and Notes - Mon, Aug 5, 2019

11:10 a.m.

Sunny, warm morning. Yesterday, TOL reached 89 degrees. We experienced some light rain late in the afternoon.

Deb and I ate dinner at the Maumee Bay Brewing Company. I was glad to see the Impossible Burger with a gluten-free bun on their menu. That's what I ate, along with their garlic mashed potatoes. I drank water. I don't care if the bun is gluten-free, but I have been eating a 95 to 99 percent plant-based, whole foods diet, since last Thanksgiving. I like the Impossible Burgers and the Beyond Meat burgers, and I will eat those if no other options exist. Whiskey and the Wolf sells an Impossible Burger also with a gluten-free bun.

Obviously, those fake burgers are processed food, which is why I only eat them when out and about, and it's not every week that I eat one. But I'm impressed by how good they taste.

I'm even more impressed by the gluten-free buns for taste, texture, and form. I fed my sourdough bread starter yesterday. I have no plans to stop making bread.

Deb drank white wine at MBBC. She ate a veggie pizza with no cheese. The sauce was pesto.

After MBBC, we went to the Toledo Spirits distillery's Bellweather bar for one drink. I had the Detroit Athletic Club, as usual, which is a gin-based drink, using their Toledo Spirits East Side Gin. The bartender gave a tour of the distillery for anyone interested. We had a tour of the distillery last month, but I enjoy seeing their old and new equipment and hearing about the process. We got to look inside and smell a fermenter that housed their Maumee Moonshine, which is a tasty beverage.

After the drink and tour, we went home. Simple evening out.

Aug 5, 2019 10:52 am EDT
Weather : Fair
Temperature : 83 F
Humidity : 57%
Wind Speed : WSW 6 mph
Barometer : 29.99 in
Dewpoint: 66 F
Visibility : 10.00 statute miles
Heat Index : 85 F

Toledo 7-day forecast
Last Update: Aug 5, 2019 9:35 am

Today: Mostly sunny, with a high near 91. Calm wind becoming west around 6 mph in the afternoon.

Tonight: Isolated showers and thunderstorms between 11pm and 1am. Partly cloudy, with a low around 68. Southwest wind 5 to 7 mph becoming calm. Chance of precipitation is 20%.

Tuesday: Showers and thunderstorms likely, mainly after 2pm. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 86. West wind 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. New rainfall amounts of less than a tenth of an inch, except higher amounts possible in thunderstorms.

Tuesday Night: Showers and thunderstorms likely, mainly before 10pm. Cloudy, with a low around 67. South wind around 5 mph becoming calm in the evening. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New rainfall amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch, except higher amounts possible in thunderstorms.

Wednesday: A chance of showers and thunderstorms, mainly before 3pm. Partly sunny, with a high near 86. Calm wind becoming west around 6 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation is 30%. New rainfall amounts of less than a tenth of an inch, except higher amounts possible in thunderstorms.

Wednesday Night: A slight chance of showers and thunderstorms before 9pm, then a slight chance of showers and thunderstorms after 3am. Partly cloudy, with a low around 67. Chance of precipitation is 20%.

Thursday: A chance of showers and thunderstorms after 3pm. Mostly sunny, with a high near 84. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

Thursday Night: A chance of showers and thunderstorms before 9pm. Mostly clear, with a low around 60. Chance of precipitation is 30%.

Friday: Sunny, with a high near 81.

Friday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around 59.

Saturday: Sunny, with a high near 80.

Saturday Night: Mostly clear, with a low around 60.

Sunday: Sunny, with a high near 82.


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The 8Chan site is unreachable, probably because it's being DDOSed because CloudFlare dropped its service to 8Chan.

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Sarah E. Needleman / Wall Street Journal: 8chan Message Forum Goes Offline After El Paso Shooting
Sarah Rumpf / RedState: Cloudflare Terminates 8chan After Another Mass Shooter Posted His Manifesto on the Site
Emily Stewart / Vox: 8chan, a nexus of radicalization, explained
Luke Barnes / ThinkProgress: Cloudflare terminates hosting services for 8chan in wake of El Paso attack
New York Times: Dayton and El Paso Shootings: Trump Links Call for Background Checks to Immigration Laws
April Glaser / Slate: Almost No One Can Stop 8chan. So Cloudflare Is.
Nicole Lafond / Talking Points Memo: Website Allegedly Used By El Paso Shooter Shut Down Over ‘Hate-Filled Community’
Jordan Culver / USA Today: 8chan has become a meeting place for ‘extremist hate.’ The founder says it's time to shut it down
Paula Bolyard / PJ Media Home: Cloudflare Terminates 8chan in the Wake of El Paso Shooting: Slippery Slope or Necessary Evil?
Kevin Roose / New York Times: Cloudflare Chief Explains Decision to Shut Down 8Chan, Despite Reservations
Donie O'Sullivan / CNN: 8chan goes offline after Cloudflare pulls support for website used by El Paso suspect
Steve Dent / Engadget: Cloudflare cuts off extremist site 8chan after multiple shootings
Patricia Hernandez / Polygon: Trump and GOP blame recent mass shootings on video games, internet
Evie Fordham / The Daily Caller: Major Internet Company Cloudflare Drops ‘Cesspool Of Hate’ 8chan Following El Paso Shooting
Elizabeth Nolan Brown / Reason: After El Paso and Dayton Shootings, Threatened Crackdowns on Guns, Immigrants, and Internet Speech
Kristinakbravo / KTLA: ‘Cesspool of Hate’: 8chan Sees Outages as S.F. Company Pulls Website Support Over Post Linked to El Paso Shooter
Evie Fordham / The National Interest: Cloudflare Drops ‘Cesspool Of Hate’ 8chan Following El Paso Shooting
Joseph Cox / VICE: Cloudflare Says It Won't Ban 8chan, a Hotbed for Terrorist Manifestos
James Rogers / Fox News: El Paso shooting: 8chan offline after internet company Cloudflare pulls support for ‘cesspool of hate’ online forum
Martin Coulter / Financial Times: 8chan cast out by Cloudflare after El Paso shooting
Amanda Woods / New York Post: Cybersecurity firm Cloudflare drops 8chan over ties to El Paso shooter
Janko Roettgers / Variety: Cloudflare Terminates 8Chan Account Following El Paso Domestic Terror Attack
Jim Hoft / The Gateway Pundit: Cloudflare Drops 8Chan Following El Paso Mass Shooting — Blames Website for “Inspiring” Mass Murder
The Week: 10 things you need to know today: August 5, 2019
Catherine Shu / TechCrunch: Cloudflare will stop service to 8chan, which CEO Matthew Prince describes as a “cesspool of hate”
Darryl Coote / UPI: Network provider drops website 8chan after El Paso shooting
Makena Kelly / The Verge: Cloudflare to revoke 8chan's service, opening the fringe website up for DDoS attacks
Charles Johnson / Little Green Footballs: A Big and Necessary Step: Cloudflare Terminates Service for 8Chan
Cheryl Rofer / Balloon Juice: A Little Late-Night Honesty

"El Paso Shooting Suspect's Manifesto Echoes Trump's Language"

"El Paso Terrorism Suspect’s Alleged Manifesto Highlights Eco-Fascism’s Revival"

The racist rant inveighs against environmental destruction and calls for mass killings to make the American “way of life” more “sustainable.” It’s not unique.

El Paso Shooting Suspect's Manifesto Echoes Trump's Language

Cortney O'Brien / Townhall: Tim Ryan: That Manifesto Could Have Been Written By a Trump Speech Writer
Eric Lutz / Vanity Fair: Donald Trump Struggles To Respond To Mass Shootings
Molly Olmstead / Slate: Trump Focuses on Mental Illness and “Evil” in Speech on Weekend Mass Shootings
Franco Ordoñez / NPR: After Shootings, Focus Turns To Trump Administration's Gun Policies
Tristan Justice / The Federalist: Weekend Shootings Pour Gasoline On Gun Control Push Among 2020 Candidates
Washington Post: Republicans struggle to respond in wake of El Paso, Dayton shootings
Christina Maxouris / CNN: The El Paso shooting suspect wrote a ‘manifesto,’ police say. It was filled with anti-immigrant and racist language
Brendan O'Neill / spiked: The armed wing of identity politics
Steve M. / No More Mister Nice Blog: WHY CAN'T WE HAVE A BETTER PRESS CORPS? (updated)
The Guardian: El Paso shooting comes amid global rise in white nationalist violence
Alessio Perrone / The Independent: Trump pictured greeting guests and smiling at his golf club hours after 20 people killed in mass shooting
Kevin Roose / New York Times: 8chan, Megaphone for Gunmen, Has Gone Dark. ‘Shut the Site Down,’ Says Its Creator.
ABC News: ‘This Week’ Transcript 8-4-19: Mick Mulvaney, Rep. Veronica Escobar, Former HUD Secretary …
Peter Wade / Rolling Stone: Republicans and Fox News: White Nationalist Violence Has Nothing to Do With White Nationalism
Michael Barajas / The Texas Observer: White Terror on the Border
Peter Hasson / The Daily Caller: George P. Bush: ‘White Terrorism’ Is ‘Real And Present Threat’
Alberto Luperon / Law & Crime: ‘White Terrorism’: Rod Rosenstein Says Shooters Indoctrinated Just Like Islamic Terrorists
Wajahat Ali / The Atlantic: The Death Rattle of White Supremacy
Julia Conley / Common Dreams: At Least 29 Dead After Shootings In Texas and Ohio, With Police Probing Alleged White Supremacist Views …
Andrew Prokop / Vox: From condemning “white terrorism” to condemning video games: Republican responses to El Paso shooting

"Confusion: Biden offers sympathy for the ‘tragic events in Houston today and also in Michigan’"

this morning, trump said toledo, instead of dayton.

Jack Mirkinson / Splinter: Trump Pretends He Cares About Mass Shootings and White Supremacy in Laughably Hollow Speech
Shelby Talcott / The Daily Caller: Biden Reportedly Offers Sympathy For The Wrong Places After Weekend Shootings
Kathryn Krawczyk / The Week: Trump just mistakenly commemorated this weekend's shooting in ‘Toledo’
Morgan Phillips / Mediaite: Trump Misstates Mass Shooting Location: ‘May God Bless the Memory of Those Who Perished in Toledo’
Kristinn Taylor / The Gateway Pundit: More to Walmart Shooting, Sources Tell Reporter: Claim of Second Suspect Killed by Police …

biden's errors were huge. Houston and Michigan???

Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden expressed his sympathy for the victims of the weekend’s mass shootings in Houston and Michigan — bungling the locations of the tragedies in El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio.

Speaking at a fundraiser in San Diego on Sunday evening, the 76-year-old former vice president talked about the “tragic events in Houston today and also in Michigan the day before,” the Washington Examiner reported Monday, citing pool reports of Biden’s remarks.

Biden was speaking at the home of businessman Mark Arabo, an advocate for persecuted Iraqi Christians, the report said.

During his remarks, Biden said he doesn’t hold President Trump personally responsible for the shootings that killed 29 people and wounded dozens more, but added that “the president’s words have meaning, no matter who he or she is.”

Classmates: Ohio shooter kept a ‘hit list’ and a ‘rape list’

that had to be years ago, since the shooter was 24-years-old.

High school classmates of the gunman who killed nine people early Sunday in Dayton, Ohio, say he was suspended for compiling a “hit list” of those he wanted to kill and a “rape list” of girls he wanted to sexually assault.

wonder what his parents did, if anything, after that incident.

The accounts by two former classmates emerged after police said there was nothing in the background of 24-year-old Connor Betts that would have prevented him from purchasing the .223-caliber rifle with extended ammunition magazines that he used to open fire outside a crowded bar.

School suspensions don't register, apparently. And this sounds familiar. I think that another mass shooter from the past couple years had been suspended from school, but that info did not appear on any background check nor list.

Both former classmates told The Associated Press that Betts was suspended during their junior year at suburban Bellbrook High School after a hit list was found scrawled in a school bathroom. That followed an earlier suspension after Betts came to school with a list of female students he wanted to sexually assault, according to the two classmates, a man and a woman who are both now 24 and spoke on condition of anonymity out of concern they might face harassment.

Suspended from school twice for creating violent-related lists. ???

“There was a kill list and a rape list, and my name was on the rape list,” said the female classmate.

A former cheerleader, the woman said she didn’t really know Betts and was surprised when a police officer called her cellphone during her freshman year to tell her that her name was included on a list of potential targets.

“The officer said he wouldn’t be at school for a while,” she said. “But after some time passed he was back, walking the halls. They didn’t give us any warning that he was returning to school.”

this is weird behavior by the school. maybe this silent stance is for legal reasons.

Bellbrook-Sugarcreek Schools officials declined to comment on those accounts, only confirming that Betts attended schools in the district.

The discovery of the hit list early in 2012 sparked a police investigation, and roughly one-third of Bellbrook students skipped school out of fear, according to an article in the Dayton Daily News.

holy hell. yet:

... police said there was nothing in the background of 24-year-old Connor Betts that would have prevented him from purchasing the .223-caliber rifle with extended ammunition magazines ...

how is getting suspended twice for creating violent-related lists, especially when
one list caused a third of the high school students to skip school out of fear, equate to "nothing in the background" of Betts?

Those high school suspensions for creating violence-related threats should have been enough to prevent him from obtaining weapons either indefinitely or at least for 20 years.

the police need to answer for this. the background check process needs to answer for this.

More silence from those close to the suspensions and list threat incidents.

It’s not clear what became of that investigation. Chief Michael Brown in Sugarcreek Township, which has jurisdiction over the Bellbrook school, did not return calls Sunday about whether his agency investigated the hit list.

Though Betts, who was 17 at the time, was not named publicly by authorities at the time as the author of the list, the former classmates said it was common knowledge within the school he was the one suspended over the incident.

Seven years ago.

Drew Gainey was among those who went on social media Sunday to say red flags were raised about Betts’ behavior years ago.

“There was an incident in high school with this shooter that should have prevented him from ever getting his hands on a weapon. This was a tragedy that was 100% avoidable,” he wrote on in a Twitter post on Sunday.

Former Bellbrook Principal Chris Baker said he “would not dispute that information” when the Daily News asked him Sunday about the hit list suspension. He declined to comment further to the newspaper and the AP was unable to reach him.

the silence from people who could have done something is disturbing.

Betts had no apparent criminal record as an adult, though if he had been charged as a juvenile that would typically be sealed under state law.

“There’s nothing in this individual’s record that would have precluded him from getting these weapons,” Dayton Police Chief Richard Biehl said Sunday.

Wearing a mask and bullet-proof vest, police say 24-year-old Connor Betts killed one person in an alley next to Blind Bob’s bar then turned right onto East Fifth Street and opened fire on the crowd of entertainment district patrons, killing eight more people and wounding 32 before police officers shot and killed him.

Among the victims was the gunman’s sister Megan Betts, 22, who arrived at the Oregon District with him.

The shooting happened just after 1 a.m. when the popular district was full of bar goers, many enjoying the warm evening on outdoor patios along the street.

That's what we were doing with our neighbors on Friday night, until about Midnight.

We started at H2O Cafe, which is located along the Maumee River in downtown Toledo, outside of the Imagination Station. It's affiliated with that science center. It's an outdoor bar that is run as a non-profit. It has limited hours. I enjoyed a tasty gin-based drink that used East Side Gin, maybe by the Toledo Spirits Distillery. It's a great location. I had not been in that area of downtown, since probably the 1990s. Located along the river. Sky was mostly clear. We were in the shade because of the buildings. It's located along the west side of the river.

Next, we went up to The Heights, which is located on the 12th floor, which is the top of a hotel, located in downtown Toledo. Great views of the city and the surrounding area. We sat out on the patio. The sky was mostly dry with pastel colors at sunset, which is a bit unusual for August for us, which typically has more humidity. The temps were comfortably warm but not hot. Great weather to be outside. I kept saying that. We need to ensure that we spend our evenings out and about on outdoor patios. We'll have decent weather to about mid-October, but not every weekend will be nice.

Then we sat outside on the patio next to the outdoor bar at MoJo's. We drank PBR.

Then we went next door to Chevy's Place, which was packed inside and outside along the sidewalk. Chevy's Place has a garage door type of wall that gets raised when the weather is nice. It's a simple setup. They played loud country music, DJ-style. They had a speaker setup outside too, which caused the music to reverberate through downtown. Funny. We used their restrooms but we decided to move on.

We walked inside the Black Cloister but they had some kind of live band karaoke, which did not interest us. We moved on. We considered M'Osteria, but we moved on to the nearby Blarney, which had a live hard rock band playing. We sat inside and then we moved to the Blarney's outdoor patio.

The Blarney is located on the corner of Huron and Monroe, I think. Anyway, a lot of people were walking by that corner. We could hear the music from Chevy's Place. I recognized people passing by who we saw much earlier at H2O Cafe and The Heights. Golf cart-type taxis passed by often, ferrying partygoers.

Downtown Toledo was lively on Friday night. It was that way a few weeks ago on a Saturday night when we hung out with Deb's co-workers. Downtown Toledo probably bustles on every nice weather night from at least May into October.

Rainy or cold weather nights would still have people out, but probably a lot fewer people bar-hopping and walking around and hanging out outside on patios and in the DORA districts where people are allowed to carry the drinks outdoors.

All the places we visited on Friday night were dissimilar. Big diff between The Heights and Mojo's and Chevy's Place. I like Chevy's Place. We spent a good bit of time at Chevy's a few weeks ago on a Friday night. I especially like it in the nice weather with the big door raised, allowing people to walk outside with their drinks. The Blarney is a bar, Irish-themed, of course, but the other places have more unique character. The H2O Cafe was quiet and relaxing.

Loud dance music played at The Heights. Loud country music blared at Chevy's Place. Low key "oldies" pop music from the 80s and 90s played on the outdoor bar and patio area at Mojo's. And again, the live hard rock band played at The Blarney.

Fun evening. I never saw any trouble anywhere. Nobody out of line. Nobody pushing nor yelling. Nothing threatening anywhere. I did see, however, multiple police outside Table 44. Unsure what occurred.

Everyone at every place we patronized and visited briefly were happy, festive, and enjoying the great summer evening. It's a lot easier now to visit many places in downtown Toledo at night by walking.

A neo-Nazi website took credit for Rep. Tulsi Gabbard’s (D-HI) qualification for the first two Democratic primary debates. The Daily Stormer, a notorious white supremacist and antisemitic website, proclaimed in April “we did it” — after the Hawaii congresswoman reached the 65,000 donor threshold needed to participate in the first two debates.

Andrew Anglin, the website’s founder, wrote in April, “We got Tulsi in the debates.” He added: “I kind of didn’t really want to do the whole big push on this site and have her linked to us if she was going to make it without us (both because I don’t want the media attention and I doubt she wants to be considered a nazi candidate), but as it was clear she wasn’t going to make it without us, I figured it didn’t matter.”

wtf? people VOTED for this thinking. and somehow, those voters are more special than people who express their first amendment rights of free speech by choosing not to vote.

Ohio politician blames mass shootings on 'drag queen advocates', Obama, open borders

State Rep. Candice Keller blamed mass shootings on 'drag queen advocates,' 'homosexual marriage,' open borders and even former president Barack Obama.

In the Facebook post, Ohio Rep. Candice Keller complained about liberals playing the "blame game" after every shooting and asked why not place the blame where it belongs. The Republican lives in Middletown, about 30 miles south of Dayton, where a gunman killed nine people early Sunday.

Keller, in the post, placed the blame for mass shootings on "the breakdown of the traditional American family(thank you, transgender, homosexual marriage, and drag queen advocates); fatherlessness, a subject no one discusses or believes is relevant; the ignoring of violent video games; the relaxing of laws against criminals(open borders); the acceptance of recreational marijuana; failed school policies(hello, parents who defend misbehaving students): disrespect to law enforcement(thank you, Obama)."

The post went on to blame others, including the Democrats in Congress, and other lawmakers who don't value the Second Amendment.

Keller didn't return a message seeking comment. She confirmed in a text to The Enquirer she wrote it and that it's still on her Facebook page, though it's not visible to everyone.

Butler County Democratic Party Chairman Brian Hester said Keller was blaming the victims of recent shootings in her post.

"To blame these shootings on some of the very people who have been targeted is offensive to those victims as well as the nine people who were murdered in Dayton this morning and to their grieving friends and family members," said Hester, referencing the Orlando's Pulse Nightclub shooting in June 2016 and the El Paso, Texas attack on Saturday.

In remembrance of Don Banks, an influential NFL reporter and the “conscience” of the league, who died Sunday at age 56

Christian humor site Babylon Bee feuds with Snopes, claiming Snopes went too far in fact-checking satirical stories, which Snopes had suggested deceived readers

The Social Network trailer influenced the music in movie trailers with its choir cover of Creep; now many songs in trailers literally explain film plots

Despite the fact that the El Paso shooter's language echoed Trump's, Trump blames the media for contributing “anger and rage that has built up over many years”

8chan goes dark after hardware provider discontinues service (

Internet hate forum 8chan has gone dark after web services company Voxility banned the site — and also banned 8chan’s new host Epik, which had been leasing web space from it. Epik began working with 8chan today after web services giant Cloudflare cut off service, following the latest of at least three mass shootings linked to 8chan. But Stanford researcher Alex Stamos noted that Epik seemed to lease servers from Voxility, and when Voxility discovered the content, it cut ties with Epik almost immediately.

“As soon as we were notified of the content that Epik was hosting, we made the decision to totally ban them,” Voxility business development VP Maria Sirbu told The Verge.

Epik’s website remains accessible, but 8chan — which was available earlier this morning — now returns an error message. Epik didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment, so it’s not clear what its next steps will be or how heavily it depended on Voxility. Over the past year, Epik has raised its profile by working with far-right-friendly sites (like Gab) that have been banned by other web service companies. Earlier this year, it acquired the denial-of-service protection service BitMitigate, which has previously stepped in to protect sites like the neo-Nazi site Daily Stormer.

CEO Rob Monster confirmed that Epik was serving 8chan this morning, though he said Epik had not proactively solicited business from the site. “Our services fill the ever growing need for a neutral service provider that will not terminate accounts based on arbitrary reasoning or political pressure,” Monster wrote. “From what little we know so far, the chans are not lawless and do have moderation, especially in regards to DMCA and content which is illegal in the United States.”

Cloudflare, by contrast, said that while 8chan “may not have violated the letter of the law in refusing to moderate their hate-filled community, they have created an environment that revels in violating its spirit.” Cloudflare noted that its actions were unlikely to keep 8chan offline, but Voxility has at least temporarily done so.

One or both shooters over the weekend also used Twitter and/or Facebook, but for some reason, those services are allowed to exist. Twitter is the cesspool of the internet, in my opinion, because it exists on Wall Street. Twitter is a platform for hate, violence, and harassment. Since nearly every journalists uses Twitter, then Twitter is the easiest way to spread misinformation. Journalists have retweeted bogus stories in the past.

Society would be improved if Twitter cease to exist, regardless of what journalists think.

“May God bless the memory of those who perished in Toledo,” the president said, referring to a city more than 100 miles away from Dayton, the location of a massacre on Sunday.

Mr. Trump wasn’t the only politician to trip over the details. On Sunday night, former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., who is running for the Democratic presidential nomination, misstated the locations of both shootings.

At a fund-raiser, Mr. Biden referred to “the tragic events in Houston today and also in Michigan the day before,” according to a pool report. Michigan is to the north of Ohio, and Houston is about 700 miles from El Paso.

And Biden mixed up the days for the state and approximate state. Holy crap.

Biden said Saturday's shooting occurred in Michigan, and the early Sunday morning shooting occurred in Houston, TX.

That's alarming.

For his part, Mr. Trump walked offstage Monday morning without taking questions from reporters or acknowledging his mistake. It was not immediately clear if the president had been improvising or reading the Teleprompter script. A transcript of his remarks released later by the White House showed the phrase “in Toledo” struck through.

Nan Whaley, the mayor of Dayton, said on Monday that she had heard Mr. Trump would visit the city on Wednesday. “But I’ve not gotten a call,” she told a reporter. “And you know, he might be going to Toledo. I don’t know.”

Is the Dayton mayor trying to be funny when her city is recovering from a tragedy? Sometimes being cerebral ALL of the time is the best strategy, until enough time has passed. The mayor needs to define "enough time". Technically, the shooting occurred yesterday. It does not seem like enough time has passed to be a smart ass. That can occur later.

Over in Toledo, Mayor Wade Kapszukiewicz also issued a statement: “It’s pretty obvious the president misspoke this morning, and that happens to all of us from time to time,” he said. “Nevertheless, Toledo is happy to accept his prayers, even if they were meant for Dayton.”

Steady, mayor Wade. Time and place.

I watched the 3pm press conference in Dayton over the web. I streamed a Dayton TV station that carried the press conference. Politicians spoke. At the 4pm press conference, the Dayton police chief provided more details about the incident,

The 3pm presser was a waste, since it involved politicians blabbing nonsensically. Ohio senators Brown and Portman spoke. Portman misspoke. He recounted the tragic events that occurred in Dayton this year. A major tornado outbreak occurred late at night on Memorial Day. But Portman called the storms hurricanes.

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daily star?

Brazil deforestation climbs 67% through July as gov't attacks data

Joe Biden compares Donald Trump to the Ku Klux Klan as Democratic front-runner claims president's rhetoric proves he has 'abandoned the theory that we are one people'

i wonder if uncle joe knows what day it is.

The second of the weekend's two mass-shooters was a political liberal who admired Elizabeth Warren, but the first was deadlier and covered more in media

"Amazon Is a Monopoly ("

I run a consulting company for Amazon suppliers. We have roughly 2-dozen Amazon suppliers and our first-hand experience is that Amazon is absolutely stifling competition/business to the detriment of customer.

another hn comment:

People have been complaining about basically the same thing with respect to Walmart for decades.